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[kingandy]

Oh, a few quick notes re this week's Doctor Who ...

• Part of me hopes they will take this opportunity to tie all the Dalek survival into one big lump. Currently there are three distinct instances of Daleks surviving the Great Distaster From Which No Dalek Could Possibly Have Escaped, which is somewhat stretching the bounds of credibility. From 1930s New York, it would be quite easy for (a) one gold Dalek to end up, broken and confused, in Van Statten's museum in 2012, and (b) the others to escape, hide in subspace, decide one of them is the Emperor and start converting humans into Daleks^[1] to build up their empire (in their Long Game). I half-suspected the human-to-Dalek conversion process was what the Great Experiment was going to be ... it's still not out of the question for Dalek Sec to become the Emperor, he does have that big throbbing brain after all.
• I still don't see the advantage of leaving behind your impervious flying battle-suit with built-in ray-guns, even if you do get "imagination".
• Why wasn't it called "The Daleks Take Manhatten!"?

Still, it was all good fun and I quite liked the musical number. Loved those wings...

[1] Or "Using human cellular matter and protein chains as raw material from which to grow new Daleks"

Comments

[stsquad.livejournal.com]

Thats the beauty of time travel - post-pre-rationalisation. Its a lot easier to do in Who than Lost even if the writer there are trying really hard to show ¨that was our plan all along¨.

[kingandy]

Randomly, I yearn for them to encounter even one person at a different point in their personal timeline than they last met. I mean, outside of Father's Day, when it was sort of intentional.

There's a vague potential with Elizabeth I, but I strongly suspect we won't get see their first meeting on screen - smelt like a throwaway gag to me.

[sobrique.livejournal.com]

IIRC the 'Cult of Skaro' was the same bunch of Daleks in the Dalek/Cyberman thingy. But certainly, there's far too many 'oh look, some more daleks' things going on. I'd really like it if the Daleks this time got 'somehow' dumped in the void, to show up quite a few years later.

[myki.livejournal.com]

Indeed they are – Sek did a temporal shift at the end of the Canary Wharf thing and ended up in 1930’s Manhattan. But they are the last 4 (so they think – it kinda does suggest that Sek is the Emperor)

[kingandy]

That was my initial thought, but given Sec's "development" it seems unlikely they'll go from here to the Void (and thence to Canary Wharf) ... though he could always go back inside the suit.

Personally I reckon the voidship's the best avenue for Daleks surviving the Time War; I'd like to see all the others stem off from that.

[myki.livejournal.com]

The time line is not as you think. The earliest incarnation of Sec is Canarf Wharf - he escapes that via a temporal wotnot and gets all mutated and wears spatz. From there - there's nothing stopping him hiding out in space getting lots of Dalek's throigh Big Brother and getting explodified by a chav in the future. There's no need to go back into the suit.

[ed-fortune.livejournal.com]

But then wouldn't he kill Rose as soon as he see's her? Rose as already said 'I killed the emperor, nur nur nur'.

Personally, I think the hole was bigger and that's how The Master, The Rani, The Meddling Monk, Romana and Commander Maxil fell through.

[kingandy]

No, that's how I see it, I meant to imply that it seems more likely to me they came here from Canary Wharf than the other way around. I was just trying to think of ways it could happen.

[myki.livejournal.com]

Ahhh I see. It is worth mentioning that in the past the Dalek Emperor has been referred to as "A Dalek Emperor" so it's not necessarily the same guy as we keep seeing in the older series.