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kingandy ([personal profile] kingandy) wrote2004-03-30 10:44 am

His Dark Materia - a nalysis (some spoilers)

So, basically, I found His Dark Materia (intentional typo) unfulfilling and a bit of a let-down. The world is very vividly imagined and superbly realised, the journey itself was excellent, epic in scale and full of promise - it's just that it ultimately didn't deliver on some of those promises. All the way through, people are going "Ooh ooh what is dust what is dust!" and, unless I missed something, it's never really dealt with. There's the part where the dust claims to be angels (but then there are real angels), and later it seems to be cognizance or something that's attracted to souls (is he saying children don't have souls?), and then there's the whole thing about shadows and craziness. It just seemed, to me, as though Pullman set out to say something profound about the human condition, and then just forgot to put it in. Plus and also, all that bit about killing God put me off a bit. I'm broadly speaking in the "Pro-God" camp, which is to say that I think if He exists in your universe then He probably shouldn't be dicked about with.[1] Deciding that He's just some crazy old angel who declared himself king and rules with an iron fist (though there's no indication of exactly how He rules; He seems mostly uncommunicative. Lord Wossname is mostly angry at the church and takes it out on the deity) doesn't seem quite fair, or believable, or something.

Then, of course, there was the unsettling child-sex. Save the universe by getting laid? I didn't get that at all. Maybe Dust is attracted to people who aren't virgins, and Lyra is such a dirty slut that she drew all the Dust away from the hole in the world or I don't know it just makes no sense. This may say more about me than the book, but I, personally, thought the ending was weak.

Which is why I don't want to go and see the stage play. Plus it is expensive and far away.

Hey, when did Northern Lights get renamed The Golden Compass?



[1] Yes, I liked Dogma.
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[personal profile] kneeshooter 2004-03-30 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
The play has a better structure than the books IMO, but a lot of your criticism is fair. I contrast it to the Narnia books which are pretty much the same thinly disguised theological narrative, just with the opposite bias.

Maybe it's something in the water in Oxford?

There's a whole FAQ on the Golden Compass question, but it's the US title.
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[personal profile] kneeshooter 2004-03-30 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Decision of the publisher I guess.

[identity profile] jfs.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
*grin*

"
New Line Cinema deeply cares about your opinions on the director/casting/plot/ending of the movies.
They don't.

A bad adaptation will ruin the books!!!
It won't"

made me giggle

[identity profile] ed-fortune.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Deciding that He's just some crazy old angel who declared himself king and rules with an iron fist

But the aged angel isn't god, it's whatever rules the land of angels/Shining city. the real is far greater than asimple corporeal being. Or something. It's been a while since I read it.

[identity profile] ed-fortune.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I think the idea is that the God of Organised Christianity is the Authority, whereas God himself is far bigger than that.

And I took dust to be the 'fingerprints of the divine' sort a thing, which had been interfered with by entropy (aka the opposite to the Creator)

Hmm, could do with a re-read I think.

[identity profile] ed-fortune.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Surely dis-organised chemistry is far more frightening?

All it takes is a stray bunsen burner...

[identity profile] wulfboy.livejournal.com 2004-03-30 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
"And lo! Upon the third day did GOD combine hydrochloric acid with phosphorous, and he did see that the Results were good and were written down along with the Apparatus and the Procedure in his Chemistry Book."