The Idiot Ball

[kingandy]

Just watched the last episode of Heroes series 3. (Yes, I'm behind.)


So when Nathan died, Mrs Petrelli had two choices:
1) Pop a few drops of Claire's blood in there and raise him from the dead
2) Brainwash a dangerous and powerful psychopath into thinking they're Nathan in the hope it sticks, and have to walk around pretending he's her son for the rest of both their lives

Well GEE I WONDER WHICH WOULD BE THE BETTER PLAN.

Comments

[areteus.livejournal.com]

I think it was a grand plan and leads to plottage. Besides the 'oh look, we can ressurect people using a very easily obtained material' schtick was getting old hat... :)

[kingandy]

Yes, but the point is, they can, and AFAIK they never wrote anything in to explain why they couldn't. No "Oh since Sylar copied my ability that doesn't work any more" or "we didn't get to him in time, rigor mortis has set in" or anything like that. And it's not like they didn't know - Noah Bennet was in the room, was firmly behind the notion, and it's been used on him before.

And then they burned the body so there was no chance of ever doing that.

I can understand the dramatic and narrative reasons, it's just I'd rather they make it not possible than just ignoring or forgetting about it (and I'm pretty sure it's the writers forgetting, not the characters).

[wulfboy.livejournal.com]

It's the Star Trek problem.

If introduce "tech" in whatever form into your world, you can't unintroduce it for mere narrative reasons because that is unsatisfying. You have to leave it behind in e-space or have it evolve into a space jellyfish.

[kingandy]

Exactly. But they did not put it in e-space, nor were there any visible jellyfish. It just wasn't mentioned.

[kingandy]

Angela and Noah were talking Parkman into it. I think Angela's vision was of Nathan saving the world (by telling the President he'd changed his mind, or something). But either way ... wouldn't it be better for them to save the actual Nathan than make a fake one so Matt could save him?

TBH I can understand Angela being shaken up as her son's just died, but Noah at least should have kept his wits about him. FFS, he specifically sent Claire and Peter off somewhere so that they wouldn't know about Nathan's death. Actually, on reflection, shouldn't Sylar's own blood have worked as well?

[kingandy]

I can see the narrative opportunities (heck, within five minutes they're already suggesting there is a chance that maybe, just maybe, the conditioning won't hold). In fact I think it's massively inconvenient, dramatically, to have a character walking around who bleeds resurrection juice, and it was probably a mistake to introduce that aspect of Claire's power in the first place.

On further thought, I think it really boils down to Noah. It's not necessarily widely-known that Claire's blood can do that. Claire herself may not know. But Noah certainly should.

The Idiot Ball

[zombie-all-star.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Hiro will probably go back in time and save him, or something.
In fact, that raises a point about Heroes.
Too many of them are conveniently powerful from a plot perspective, which is why Peter, Hiro and Sylar keep being de-powered. In the same way lightening guy in Mutant X was often too powerful to appear in this episode.